Reply-To: "End Time Issues" From: "End Time Issues" To: "James @ Prophetic Network" Bcc: "Elisabeth Boshoff" , "Andre Sharpe" , "Mervyn Mooi" , "Frik De Jager" , "Johan Pretorius \(Home\)" , "Annith Botha" , , "Steve Messick" , "Shelley Senner" , "Scott Ledbetter" , "S John Butt" , "Roy Saunders" , "Rose Bowen" , "Rita" , "Roger Jervois" , "Rob Burchell" , , , "R. Tyler" , "Prv24_6_Counsel" , "Professor Christina Landman" , "Pawcreek" , "Paul Grutter" , "Patrick James" , "Norman Fouche" , "Norman Bosman" , "Nigel Andrews" , "Neville Homann" , "Deon" , "Michael West" , "Messianic Aplogetic egroup" , "Mark de Connick" , "Mark" , "Marietjie Nell" , "Margaretha Tierney" , "Mannie Pereira" <4him@ebenezer.co.za>, "Malcolm Bosman" , "Lee Anne Lee" , "Leatitia Hayes" , "Larrie Carr" , , "Justin Lippiatt" , "Joy Magazine" , "Jorge Maia" , "John Paige" , "John Edmeston" , "Johan Sturm" , "Johan Roos" , "Jof Nelson" , "Jeffrey White" , , "Jane Stuart" , "J E Botha" , "Israel C.S. 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God bless James Robertson If you do not want to receive further mails on this and related = subjects. Please email james@end-time-issues.org.za stating "Please do = not mail me again". Some facts on Israel - Helpful information Nationhood and Jerusalem: * Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the = rise of Islam. * Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a = Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the = modern State of Israel. * Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion = over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the = land for the past 3,300 years. The only Arab dominion since the conquest = in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. * For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem = has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the = Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their = capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. * Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Tanach, the Jewish Holy = Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. * King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to = Jerusalem. * This "third holiest site in Islam" is ignored by modern Muslims, other = than those living around Jerusalem. Muslims are required to make a = religious pilgrimage (the Haj) to Mecca and Medina during their = lifetime. There is no obligation to visit Jerusalem and few do so. = Israeli Muslims not living in Jerusalem make no special effort to go = there to pray even though they may do so at any time. * While Jews do not generally revere places, the Temple Mount is the = only remains of the only holy temples ever to be built in their capital, = Jerusalem. Jews come from all over the world to pray at the Western Wall = of the Temple Mount. Even the Pope and the Dali Lahma have prayed there = in recognition of its symbolism. *Jews the world over pray facing Jerusalem. If they live in Jerusalem, = they face the Temple Mount. Muslims pray facing Mecca (in Saudi Arabia). If they live in Jerusalem, they turn their backs on the Temple Mount (El = Aksa mosque) to turn towards Mecca. Arab and Jewish Refugees: *In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab = leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left = without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. The Jewish refugees were forced = to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, seizing of = land and property, and pogroms. * The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be = around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is = estimated to be the same. * Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the = Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of = the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee = group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their = own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into = Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. The Arab - Israeli Conflict : * The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the = Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation, representing one tenth of = one percent of all Arab lands. * The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost all of them. Israel = defended itself each time and won. The lands occupied after the Six Day = War in 1967 were not occupied out of imperialistic goals, rather to = produce defensible borders for the next attacks. Prior to 1967, Syrians = shot freely at Kibbutz farmers living and working below the Golan = Heights. And, the hilltops in Judea & Samaria (The West Bank) were used = by the invading Jordanian armies to fire on populated areas in Israel. = Israel was easily able to return all conquered lands to Egypt because of = the natural defence provided by the vastness of the Sinai desert = separating the two countries. * The PLO=92s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of = Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, = autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with = weapons for their police force (these same weapons are currently being = used against Israeli soldiers and citizens). * Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews = were denied access to places of worship. The Israeli government has = never destroyed a single mosque in its territory, including those that = have been long abandoned. While under Jordanian rule, there was no call = for a liberation of Jerusalem, no call for East Jerusalem to be given to = Palestinians, and no call for the return of lands in Jordan that were = originally proposed to be part of Palestine in the original partition = plan. * Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved = and made accessible to people of all faiths. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: * Of the 175 Security Council resolutions on all topics passed before = 1990, 97 (55%) were directed against Israel. * Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions on all topics voted on before = 1990, 429 (62%) were directed against Israel. * The UN passes resolutions directed against Israel before any = investigation of facts takes place. * The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the = Jordanians between 1948 and 1967. * The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the = ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, using the headstones for = road pavers and toilets. * The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like = policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western = Wall. These are incredible times. We have to ask what our role should be. ----------------------------------------------------------- Noah K. Goldstein Ramat -Yishai, Israel - utopian30@mac.com ----------------------------------------------------------- "On matters of style, swim with the current, on matters of principle, = stand like a rock." --Thomas Jefferson ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C04E2B.ECD339C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings

I received this a few days ago and thought it = might=20 interest you.

God bless
 
 
 
James Robertson
 
If you do not want to receive further mails on this and related=20 subjects.  Please email james@end-time-issues.org.za= =20 stating "Please do not mail me again".

 

Some facts on Israel - Helpful=20 information

Nationhood and Jerusalem:

* Israel became a nation in = 1312=20 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.


* Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of = a=20 Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the = modern=20 State of Israel.


* Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had = dominion=20 over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the = land for=20 the past 3,300 years. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 = C.E.=20 lasted no more than 22 years.


* For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. = Jerusalem=20 has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the=20 Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their = capital, and=20 Arab leaders did not come to visit.


* Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Tanach, the Jewish = Holy=20 Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.


* King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came = to=20 Jerusalem.


* This "third holiest site in Islam" is ignored by modern = Muslims, other=20 than those living around Jerusalem. Muslims are required to make a = religious=20 pilgrimage (the Haj) to Mecca and Medina during their lifetime. There is = no=20 obligation to visit Jerusalem and few do so. Israeli Muslims not living = in=20 Jerusalem make no special effort to go there to pray even though they = may do so=20 at any time.


* While Jews do not generally revere places, the Temple Mount is = the only=20 remains of the only holy temples ever to be built in their capital, = Jerusalem.=20 Jews come from all over the world to pray at the Western Wall of the = Temple=20 Mount. Even the Pope and the Dali Lahma have prayed there in recognition = of its=20 symbolism.


*Jews the world over pray facing Jerusalem. If they live in = Jerusalem,=20 they face the Temple Mount. Muslims pray facing Mecca (in Saudi = Arabia).
If=20 they live in Jerusalem, they turn their backs on the Temple Mount (El = Aksa=20 mosque) to turn towards Mecca.



Arab and Jewish Refugees:

*In 1948 the Arab = refugees=20 were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the = land of=20 Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. = The=20 Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab = brutality,=20 persecution, seizing of land and property, and pogroms.

* The = number of=20 Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. = The=20 number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the = same.

*=20 Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the = Arab lands=20 to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the = 100,000,000=20 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the = world that=20 has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. = Jewish=20 refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than = the=20 state of New Jersey.

The Arab - Israeli Conflict = :

* The=20 Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the = Palestinians.=20 There is only one Jewish nation, representing one tenth of one percent = of all=20 Arab lands.
* The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost all = of them.=20 Israel defended itself each time and won. The lands occupied after the = Six Day=20 War in 1967 were not occupied out of imperialistic goals, rather to = produce=20 defensible borders for the next attacks. Prior to 1967, Syrians shot = freely at=20 Kibbutz farmers living and working below the Golan Heights. And, the = hilltops in=20 Judea & Samaria (The West Bank) were used by the invading Jordanian = armies=20 to fire on populated areas in Israel. Israel was easily able to return = all=20 conquered lands to Egypt because of the natural defence provided by the = vastness=20 of the Sinai desert separating the two countries.

* The PLO=92s = Charter=20 still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given = the=20 Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian=20 Authority, and has supplied them with weapons for their police force = (these same=20 weapons are currently being used against Israeli soldiers and=20 citizens).

* Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were = desecrated and=20 the Jews were denied access to places of worship. The Israeli government = has=20 never destroyed a single mosque in its territory, including those that = have been=20 long abandoned. While under Jordanian rule, there was no call for a = liberation=20 of Jerusalem, no call for East Jerusalem to be given to Palestinians, = and no=20 call for the return of lands in Jordan that were originally proposed to = be part=20 of Palestine in the original partition plan.

* Under Israeli = rule, all=20 Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to = people of=20 all faiths.


The UN Record on Israel and the = Arabs:

* Of=20 the 175 Security Council resolutions on all topics passed before 1990, = 97 (55%)=20 were directed against Israel.

* Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions on all topics voted on = before 1990,=20 429 (62%) were directed against Israel.

* The UN passes = resolutions=20 directed against Israel before any investigation of facts takes = place.

*=20 The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the = Jordanians=20 between 1948 and 1967.

* The UN was silent while the Jordanians=20 systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of = Olives,=20 using the headstones for road pavers and toilets.

* The UN was = silent=20 while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing = Jews from=20 visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.



These are = incredible times. We have to ask what our role should=20 be.


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Noah=20 K. Goldstein

Ramat -Yishai, Israel - utopian30@mac.com
-----------------------------------------------------------<= BR>"On=20 matters of style, swim with the current, on matters of principle, stand = like a=20 rock."
--Thomas Jefferson

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