Received: from latitude [155.239.90.141] by mail.end-time-issues.org.za with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1F96B02E2; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:52:09 +0200 Message-ID: <019301c086bb$94a19e40$6930a8c0@latitude> Reply-To: "End Time Issues" From: "End Time Issues" To: "James @ Prophetic Network" Subject: Thoughts on the Mail regarding "Islam's End Time Teachings" Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:36:57 +0200 Organization: End Time Issue Ministries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017D_01C086CB.813E4A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-RCPT-TO: X-UIDL: 132 Status: U This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C086CB.813E4A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, The mail on "Islam's End Time Teachings" a few days ago highlights a = really important point.=20 Yahweh (The Lord) has progressively challenged me on many of my = preconceived ideas over the years, not least of which was when about = five years ago He led me to a divine appointment with a Moslem woman who = started to witness to me about the love of her God until I realized that = she had a personal relationship with the same God I did.=20 Later that same year, I found myself in Malawi and was asked to preach = at a crusade in a Moslem area. As I knew almost nothing about Islam, = except my one encounter with the woman mentioned above, and all sorts of = prejudice, I was at a loss as to where to start.=20 But as I prayed, the Holy Spirit opened my eyes to see that there are = many Moslems who are FAR MORE devoted to the Tawratt (their name for the = Torah) and Psalms and Proverbs than most Christians. Prior to this He = had also shown me how far "christianity" had deviated from the true = faith over the centuries and also the atrocities committed in the name = of Jesus Christ.=20 Finally, He gave me a four part message, which saw me standing with my = Bible under a light in the middle of the bush giving a Bible teaching to = 400 people who had been lured to watch the "Jesus" movie because they = had never seen a movie before.=20 Yahweh opened the way for me to show them from their OWN scriptures = (which are also our scriptures but most don't recognize it) that Jesus = was the Messiah.=20 Final outcome? about 200 first time decisions for Christ (about 50%) = where previously 15% would have been a lot if the preacher were not = barraked down to a point where no call for salvation was possible (I'm = talking about an area where a few weeks earlier a new convert and two = pastors were poisoned, the new convert died!!)=20 On the same trip, we went to a village where the head man, a devout = Moslem, who lived next to the Mosque, welcomed us, declared that he knew = we were sent by God and asked me to pray for him!!!=20 The bottom line?=20 As with all the other groups that have been demonized, there IS truth, = there ARE devout people seeking God and serving Him and who ARE hearing = His voice and awaiting the return or coming of Messiah!!=20 But 'churchianity' as I recently heard it called, is so far away from = the truth of Yashua Messiah that these people cannot recognize it.=20 Yahweh did a similar thing with me the same year in Israel where He = required me at two secular business conferences to confess the wrongs = done to the Jewish people in the name of Jesus Christ, to declare that = Jesus was a Jew and to repent and ask for forgiveness!! Afterwards, = elderly Jewish men came up to me with tears in their eyes and thanked = me!!=20 The challenge in all of this for all who seek to be part of the remnant = is to URGENTLY SEEK all those who also seek to be part of the remnant, = whether they are Moslems, Jews, Jehova's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics = or any of the other groups that so many love to hate. Each group has = preserved truths the others lack, if we fail to recognize this we fail = to recognize our DEEP NEED TO LEARN no matter what the cost.=20 Returning to the mail on Islam, reference was made to a triangle - the = tragedy is that in the middle of that triangle is Yeshua Messiah / Jesus = the Christ (or whatever semantic derivative one may prefer) who IS King = of Kings and Lord of Lord and who WILL return to judge the living and = the dead and to catch up a spotless bride to reign with Him for = eternity.=20 The people on the three sides of the triangle referred to in the posting = are all awaiting the same event with the same God. They are all filled = with fear, distrust and hatred for those on the other two sides of the = triangle because of the errors that the people on those sides have = perpetrated through the centuries.=20 YET, if they all looked for the common ground - the Messiah - and His = coming and His love and His judgment, they would all find that they are = sitting on the same side of the table!!!=20 Satan has tricked the devout in every grouping into distrusting the = devout in every other group, whether we talk Judaism (Israel) or Islam = or "christianity" - the most fragmented of the lot. Or whether we talk = Seventh Day Adventists, or Catholics, or Jehova's Witnesses, or Church = of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, or Anglicans, or = Presbyterians, or Lutherans, or..., or..., or... etc.=20 Nearly everyone is so busy fighting over the specks in one another eyes = that they cannot see the massive sheets of shutterboard in their own = eyes.=20 If all those who love Yahweh in His infinitely many faceted form were to = only seek the truths that our brothers and sisters around the world have = and were to be so humble that we would refuse to ram the truths we think = we have down their throats, the remnant would take shape much faster.=20 AND if we who call ourselves by the name of Jesus Christ were all humbly = to admit the gross atrocities that have been done in that name and were = to humble ourselves and seek forgiveness before our Jewish and Moslem = brethren, they might even come to recognize that Yashua Messiah has = indeed come and died on the Cross and been resurrected and is soon to = return.=20 If those of us who presume to seek to apply the exalted term "believer" = to ourselves do nothing else this year, may I challenge each of you to = seek to find the good in your brother and sister, to find the truth that = they have and NOT to be offended by their error - let us see how many = Jews, Moslems and members of other groupings we can win to Messiah by = letting the love of God in Christ Jesus (Messiah Yahshua) be manifest = and by walking in such unity that they will KNOW that He is who we say = He is BECAUSE they can see it:=20 John 17:20-23 20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who = will believe in Me through their word; 21 "that they all may be one, as = You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, = that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 "And the glory which You = gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 = "I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and = that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as = You have loved Me. (NKJ)=20 May Yahweh bless you and keep you and make His fact to shine upon you. In the name of Yahshua, the Messiah. James Robertson NOTE (1) : The word "Yahweh" is used in this document to reflect the = fact that the correct translation of the Hebrew word generally = translated "The Lord" in the King James Version and many others is, in = fact, "Yahweh". Yahweh is the proper name for our God and occurs 6,828 = times in the Old Testament. Vines states: "LORD=20 The divine name YHWH appears only in the Bible. Its precise meaning is = much debated. God chose it as His personal name by which He related = specifically to His chosen or covenant people." (from Vine's Expository = Dictionary of Biblical Words, (Copyright (C) 1985, Thomas Nelson = Publishers) By way of analogy, my proper name is "James" and I have the designation = of "husband" to my wife, it would not be indicative of a meaningful = marriage relationship if my wife were to constantly refer to me as = "husband" rather than "James". In the same way, it is not indicative of = a meaningful relationship with our God to refer to Him as "Lord" rather = than "Yahweh" when He has given us His name to use and uses it = throughout scripture. For more information refer to the book "The Sacred Name" published by = Qadesh La Yahweh Press, available on the internet at: http://www.yahweh.org/publications/pdf1/sacrednm.pdf James Robertson END TIME ISSUE MINISTRIES james@end-time-issues.org.za (0027)-(0)-11-791-2327 (0027)-(0)-83-251-6644 P O Box 898, Randpark Ridge, 2156, Republic of South Africa EMAIL ADMINISTRATION Please feel free to forward this mail to others as seems appropriate to = you. If you do not want to receive further mail on this and related topics, = please reply to this mail with the words "Please remove me from your = mailing list" in the subject line. If this is forwarded to you and you want to receive future mailings, = please reply to this mail with the words "Please add me to your mailing = list" in the subject line. ------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C086CB.813E4A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,

The mail on "Islam's End Time Teachings" a few = days ago=20 highlights a really important point.

Yahweh (The Lord) has progressively challenged me on = many of my=20 preconceived ideas over the years, not least of which was when about = five years=20 ago He led me to a divine appointment with a Moslem woman who started to = witness=20 to me about the love of her God until I realized that she had a personal = relationship with the same God I did.

Later that same year, I found myself in Malawi and = was asked to=20 preach at a crusade in a Moslem area. As I knew almost nothing about = Islam,=20 except my one encounter with the woman mentioned above, and all sorts of = prejudice, I was at a loss as to where to start.

But as I prayed, the Holy Spirit opened my eyes to = see that=20 there are many Moslems who are FAR MORE devoted to the Tawratt (their = name for=20 the Torah) and Psalms and Proverbs than most Christians. Prior to this = He had=20 also shown me how far "christianity" had deviated from the true faith = over the=20 centuries and also the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus Christ. =

Finally, He gave me a four part message, which saw me = standing=20 with my Bible under a light in the middle of the bush giving a Bible = teaching to=20 400 people who had been lured to watch the "Jesus" movie because they = had never=20 seen a movie before.

Yahweh opened the way for me to show them from their = OWN=20 scriptures (which are also our scriptures but most don't recognize it) = that=20 Jesus was the Messiah.

Final outcome? about 200 first time decisions for = Christ (about=20 50%) where previously 15% would have been a lot if the preacher were not = barraked down to a point where no call for salvation was possible (I'm = talking=20 about an area where a few weeks earlier a new convert and two pastors = were=20 poisoned, the new convert died!!)

On the same trip, we went to a village where the head = man, a=20 devout Moslem, who lived next to the Mosque, welcomed us, declared that = he knew=20 we were sent by God and asked me to pray for him!!!

The bottom line?

As with all the other groups that have been = demonized, there IS=20 truth, there ARE devout people seeking God and serving Him and who ARE = hearing=20 His voice and awaiting the return or coming of Messiah!!

But 'churchianity' as I recently heard it called, is = so far=20 away from the truth of Yashua Messiah that these people cannot recognize = it.=20

Yahweh did a similar thing with me the same year in = Israel=20 where He required me at two secular business conferences to confess the = wrongs=20 done to the Jewish people in the name of Jesus Christ, to declare that = Jesus was=20 a Jew and to repent and ask for forgiveness!! Afterwards, elderly Jewish = men=20 came up to me with tears in their eyes and thanked me!!

The challenge in all of this for all who seek to be = part of the=20 remnant is to URGENTLY SEEK all those who also seek to be part of the = remnant,=20 whether they are Moslems, Jews, Jehova's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics = or any of=20 the other groups that so many love to hate. Each group has preserved = truths the=20 others lack, if we fail to recognize this we fail to recognize our DEEP = NEED TO=20 LEARN no matter what the cost.

Returning to the mail on Islam, reference was made to = a=20 triangle - the tragedy is that in the middle of that triangle is Yeshua = Messiah=20 / Jesus the Christ (or whatever semantic derivative one may prefer) who = IS King=20 of Kings and Lord of Lord and who WILL return to judge the living and = the dead=20 and to catch up a spotless bride to reign with Him for eternity.

The people on the three sides of the triangle = referred to in=20 the posting are all awaiting the same event with the same God. They = are all=20 filled with fear, distrust and hatred for those on the other two sides = of the=20 triangle because of the errors that the people on those sides have = perpetrated=20 through the centuries.

YET, if they all looked for the common ground - the = Messiah -=20 and His coming and His love and His judgment, they would all find that = they are=20 sitting on the same side of the table!!!

Satan has tricked the devout in every grouping into = distrusting=20 the devout in every other group, whether we talk Judaism (Israel) or = Islam or=20 "christianity" - the most fragmented of the lot. Or whether we talk = Seventh Day=20 Adventists, or Catholics, or Jehova's Witnesses, or Church of Jesus = Christ of=20 the Latter Day Saints, or Anglicans, or Presbyterians, or Lutherans, = or...,=20 or..., or... etc.

Nearly everyone is so busy fighting over the specks = in one=20 another eyes that they cannot see the massive sheets of shutterboard in = their=20 own eyes.

If all those who love Yahweh in His infinitely many = faceted=20 form were to only seek the truths that our brothers and sisters around = the world=20 have and were to be so humble that we would refuse to ram the truths we = think we=20 have down their throats, the remnant would take shape much faster.

AND if we who call ourselves by the name of Jesus = Christ were=20 all humbly to admit the gross atrocities that have been done in that = name and=20 were to humble ourselves and seek forgiveness before our Jewish and = Moslem=20 brethren, they might even come to recognize that Yashua Messiah has = indeed come=20 and died on the Cross and been resurrected and is soon to return.

If those of us who presume to seek to apply the = exalted term=20 "believer" to ourselves do nothing else this year, may I challenge each = of you=20 to seek to find the good in your brother and sister, to find the truth = that they=20 have and NOT to be offended by their error - let us see how many Jews, = Moslems=20 and members of other groupings we can win to Messiah by letting the love = of God=20 in Christ Jesus (Messiah Yahshua) be manifest and by walking in such = unity that=20 they will KNOW that He is who we say He is BECAUSE they can see it:

John 17:20-23 20 "I do not pray for these alone, = but also=20 for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 "that they all = may be=20 one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one = in Us,=20 that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 "And the glory which You = gave Me=20 I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 "I in = them, and=20 You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may = know=20 that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. = (NKJ)

May Yahweh bless you and keep you and make His fact = to shine=20 upon you.

In the name of Yahshua, the Messiah.

 

 

James Robertson

 

NOTE (1) : The word "Yahweh" is used in this = document to=20 reflect the fact that the correct translation of the Hebrew word = generally=20 translated "The Lord" in the King James Version and many others is, in = fact,=20 "Yahweh". Yahweh is the proper name for our God and occurs 6,828 times = in the=20 Old Testament. Vines states:

"LORD

The divine name YHWH appears only in the Bible. Its = precise=20 meaning is much debated. God chose it as His personal name by which = He=20 related specifically to His chosen or covenant people." (from Vine's = Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words, (Copyright (C) 1985, Thomas = Nelson=20 Publishers)

By way of analogy, my proper name is "James" and I = have the=20 designation of "husband" to my wife, it would not be indicative of a = meaningful=20 marriage relationship if my wife were to constantly refer to me as = "husband"=20 rather than "James". In the same way, it is not indicative of a = meaningful=20 relationship with our God to refer to Him as "Lord" rather than "Yahweh" = when He=20 has given us His name to use and uses it throughout scripture.

For more information refer to the book "The Sacred = Name"=20 published by Qadesh La Yahweh Press, available on the internet at:

http://www.= yahweh.org/publications/pdf1/sacrednm.pdf

 

James Robertson

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